Intro

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If you're around our age, we got two movies that'll make you feel old. I mean it's old that both of them are just using the same titles. So we gotta do the thing where we put the year in parentheses next to it now.

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That's right. We'll be chatting about Masters of the Universe 2026 and Scary Movie 2026.

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And for TV, we'll be discussing Spider Noir episodes five and six.

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Well, I guess we should get going since we're not getting any younger.

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This is weird watch that episode 11.

Movie Review: Masters of the Universe (2026)

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Our first movie is Masters of the Universe, parentheses 2026, and parentheses, directed by Travis Knight, who you may know from Bumblebee, starring Nicholas Galizin, Jared Leat Leto, Camilla Mendez, Alison Bree, and Idris Elba. Masters of the Universe was previously adapted to film in 1987, which it has its fans, but it didn't go spectacularly. This iteration's been in development hell since 2007. It passed through like four studios, including a very brief and very funny Joel Silver era. Gotta love Joel Silver, or maybe don't. Netflix spent 30 million on it, then canceled it. And Traffic Knight reportedly refused to look at every one of the previous options that came before. So he's going in fresh, and I think that's the way to do it. The 2026 version follows Prince Adam, who crash landed on Earth as a kid and has spent his whole life here until he has to go back to his home planet Eternia to stop Skeletor from taking over. So, Sush, I know you're a big He-Man fan. We were literally watching the Netflix He-Man show before recording this. Yeah. Tell me, what did you think of the movie?

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Well, like many guys my age, I grew up with Masters of the Universe and He-Man being a huge part of my childhood. I probably don't remember as many details about the lore and characters of Masters of the Universe compared to other fandoms like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Marvel Comics. But I still think it means a lot to me since I consider it the first childhood IP that I really was obsessed with. With that said, I also haven't kept up to date with news regarding the franchise since the most recent Masters of the Universe Revelation and Revolution animated series on Netflix that Kevin Smith produced a few years ago. I think I found out about this movie when the teaser trailer dropped back in January. I really enjoyed that teaser trailer, which actually was over two minutes. So I personally would have classified that as a full trailer.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

Yeah, really?

SPEAKER_01 3:14

But I admit to being a bit cautious whenever it seems like a rebooted franchise seems to be poking fun at the previous iterations, which I kind of felt seeing the teaser trailer. Other than seeing Indra Selba in the trailer, and I think looking up who was playing Skeletor and finding out it was actually Jared Leto.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Really?

SPEAKER_01 3:35

Uh I really didn't have any awareness or look into the cast and crew of the movie since I knew I was probably going to see it. The official trailer that dropped in March kind of gave us a bit more drama, which I think made me feel a bit more reassured that this movie would carry an appropriate, more balanced tone and that it might actually do alright, given that we haven't heard any crazy Jared Leto stories. And the look of the movie seemed to be incredibly accurate. Live reaction renditions. Sure, it seemed a bit CG heavy, but I understand it'd probably be next to impossible to do a lot of what was in the movie with practical effects. And it's not like the movie looked bad. So I think I realize any sort of uh concern was probably just rooted in my cynicism over these kinds of reboots. With a lot of the reboots of franchises that I've had childhood memories associated with, I kind of go in unprepared and admittedly with low expectations. Even though I will say that more recently it seems like studios are at least getting better at pairing the right writers and directors for these reboots. Seeing the movie, I admit I still did kind of find myself wondering what the tone of this movie would be. I came to really like the direction, writing, and story.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

I think this movie really made me realize that having dealt with a considerable amount of nostalgia reboots, catering to Gen X and millennial audiences over the past decade or two that have attempted to root the visuals and other characteristic elements in reality, even knowing how far removed from it a lot of these franchises are. Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

So while I think I initially was kind of caught off guard by how silly some of the moments we got are, I had to remind myself of how silly the original cartoon got at times to better appreciate it. I think it knows it's based on a kid's cartoon show from the 80s, moreover, a kid's show that's completely originated from action figures. Oh, right. Yeah, so it's not like the lore or anything was truly thought out or defined even when the franchise first blew up in the 80s, but the movie honestly handled that aspect of it in such an unexpected but really clever way. Uh, you can tell that the director Travis Knight and the writer Chris Butler really put some thought into what criticism people might have, not only if it were just another live action adaptation that was only really tied to its franchise by name, but also if it wasn't appealing enough to general audiences because it ended up being an outright adaptation that adapted every single detail to live action. I think the filmmakers honestly did such a great job balancing the fan service with the overall story that you really don't need to have any context for Masters of the Universe going into the movie, but if you do, you'll definitely be rewarded. I thought the cast was great, but the two standouts for this movie for me were Nicholas Galatine, who played Adam Glenn, aka Prince Adam, aka He-Man, and Idriselba playing Duncan, aka Man at Arms. Gallatine is better in the role than I could have ever hoped for. In animation, I think it's much easier to get away with writing a character that transforms into another version, uh, but somehow don't have any like real overlap in consciousness or personality. Uh this is actually something that's addressed through story. I know for sure in the Kevin Smith series. But given that the filmmakers didn't go the full CG or alternate actor approach for Adam and He-Man, I think it makes sense for Galat Zane to kind of retain a lot of the qualities he had as Adam, even after he changes into He-Man in this iteration. When it comes to franchise characters, I typically prefer accuracy to the source material over making them more relatable to audiences. But I really think this version worked to make He-Man more timely and to provide some overall depth to the character. Idriselbus seemed like he was having the best time. Duncan and really everyone decent back in Eternia has been going through it since Skeletor took over. So yeah, you get the full range of him acting goofy to some epic fights and a lot of great lines. Uh one that definitely made everyone in our audience laugh. Also, even though I kept forgetting that she provided the voice, Kristen Wig played Robato, who was also great, giving that her and Idris's characters play off of each other quite a bit in the movie. Ah. I also have to give props to Jared Leto, or I guess whoever made sure that he was a bit more reined in for this movie. Like, I honestly was at least keeping an eye out about drama from him while making this film, but luckily I came across zero mentions.

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Oof.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

But I think that this movie honestly reminded me of how great of an actor Jared Leto can be when he's not being insufferable to everyone else involved in the movie during the course of it being made. Dude was great in this movie. Dramatic, funny, but also intimidating when he needed to be. Basically, all the best aspects of Skeletor from over the years combined into one. Camilla Mendez is Tila, Alison Bree is Evil Lynn. Both of them were great. Though I honestly had hoped for the two of them to have more of a rivalry. Maybe if we actually get a follow-up, we'll get more of that. Sound design was great. I think the new theme song really suits the movie, and the score really fit the tone of each of the scenes. I also appreciated that they had some fun needle drops with songs that were really well suited to a given moment or the overall theme of the movie, or just to have some kind of pop culture connection to He-Man. Outside of the acting, I think the visual design was my favorite aspect of the movie. It was accepted and later enjoyed the 1987 live action Masters movie. This movie probably got the sets and costume to the closest they've ever been to the original 1980s cartoon. I think it preserves a lot of the elements of the original designs, but obviously updates them as needed to match a given moment. There's a lot to pick out if you're a fan of the franchise. So much that seeing some of it even reminded me of some characters from the cartoon that I had actually forgotten about over the years. Again, there's a lot of CG, but Masters was always rooted in this interesting hybrid of fantasy worlds of barbarians and knights and futuristic sci-fi. So it'd be pretty insane to try to recreate it with all practical effects. I mean, I think Asgard from the MCU is probably the closest thing to it, but obviously, you know, it's a fantasy world, so I think that we're aiming for something like that, and they got it right. I think it works fine and definitely looked better in IMAX than I thought it would, even having seen the trailer on a full-size TV at home. Compared to the trailer, I pretty much got the movie I was expecting, though I definitely feel like I felt more connected to the characters than I was expecting to. I think a lot of the expectation was down to how wild it looked and just kind of expecting some sort of limitation to how easily that would happen. But honestly, I think this movie, both having Adam be separated from his homeworld and it being a return story and actually leaning into the source material heavier than I thought it would have, actually made it more of a worthwhile experience. So for ratings, I gave this a four and a half for enjoyment and a four for quality. Uh, I love this movie. Yeah, I honestly thought that uh the Kevin Smith animated series was the best we were gonna get trying to explore this franchise in the modern day and kind of updating the themes. But this movie honestly really surprised me. I knew I was looking forward to this movie, but I don't think I really knew what uh people who really cared about the source material could create from it until I actually saw this movie because it's absolutely a labor of love. I think a lot of the reviewers that brought this up, and I think we honestly feel this way too. This movie just knew what it came from and wasn't afraid to be a g-man movie.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

It's updated enough to not make it feel dated, but it also respects the source material and presents this world in a way that's still serious, but not so serious that you feel like someone's trying to get you to forget it was a cartoon from your childhood so they can pivot it towards something that would be made now. I know there definitely was some backlash regarding the Kevin Smith series when it came out because one season barely had He-Man, and overall, even though it respected the past lore of the franchise, it seemed like a lot of the messaging was trying too hard to be current. Though this movie certainly adapts some aspects to be more current in real world, I don't think it's at all preachy or trying to escape being a product of the 80s, but it certainly does try to tap into more the kind of gentle giant aspect of the He-Man character, so that he's just not another mindless, muscle-bound action hero. I think I only deducted half a point for enjoyment because I admittedly did find some of the humorous moments or jokes to drag on a bit longer than I thought they should have. But otherwise, I really enjoyed the movie. Uh, quality, I honestly only deducted a point because the CG could have been better. I don't think all of the designers found the challenge to be lack of live-action reference material or budget or technology or what. But unless it's just the technology being not yet available, I think this aspect could easily be improved with having a better established world and set pieces for a larger budget. Uh, I'm assuming though, it's probably still at least somewhat challenging to have a fully CG character like Skeletor throughout the whole plus hour runtime of a movie.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Uh so yeah, as far as recommendations go, I'm gonna stick within the franchise and recommend the Kevin Smith series that we happen to be watching right now. Uh Masters of the Universe. The first season is called Revelation, and the second one is Revolution animated, so probably not for everyone, but it arguably does a good job providing some updated storylines. And what I found most impressive is that it really expands on the lore in a lot of exciting ways. So yeah, uh, what did you think of the movie?

SPEAKER_05 14:44

Oh man, okay. Well, I can't believe how well this movie worked. I've been trying to figure out since I walked out of the theater what is it? How did this all come together? Like just trying to establish where I'm coming from. I'm not a He-Man person. I was, you know, a She-Raw girl, definitely. So when the movie opens and immediately starts throwing giant monsters and insane costumes and characters like uh Mechanic at me, which is a guy whose whole deal is he has a big ass uh mechanical robot neck, you know, I was like, what what's happening? What am I looking at? I was so unsure in the first maybe 10 minutes or so what the heck was going on.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Perfect product of the 80s because it's only the thing that kids would be hyped about because they're so amped up on sugary cereal.

SPEAKER_05 15:40

Well, and I think that's a good uh comparison because this movie is very sweet, very sugary, very colorful. It's such an onslaught of colors and creatures and strange things I've never seen before. And I don't have the familiarity with the franchise like I do with, say, Marvel, where I can be like, oh, okay, it's this guy, he did that. Like I had nothing. So I'm just receiving it. And uh honestly, there's something really fun about it, just being hit in the face with pure colorful nonsense and having this visceral reaction to it. I was really into the look of this movie, which I didn't expect. I just was kind of delighted with the ridiculousness of it all. It's really nice to watch something like that.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

We watch weird considering how different the two live action movies that were made from Mattel properties are this, how different they are, but in a way very similar in that they maintain the aspects that made those things so popular, but they also are very aware of what they are and what they've maybe become to in time since then to the people who were kids who have now become adults and and maybe their views have changed at it. But I think it's really interesting, yeah, how how well both done, even though they're so different. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:06

The thing is, I was kind of bummed out that it didn't do better at the box office just because I really liked it. But I think they're still gonna sell a lot of toys from this thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Oh, well, you know what?

SPEAKER_05 17:17

Kids and adults.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

There's also some good news on the uh movie front.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Amazon that they don't care. Like they don't care about the box office numbers. They're they're happy with the movie. So from the sounds of it, it's like, why would you tell people that unless you want them to believe that there's going to be follow-up to this?

SPEAKER_05 17:39

So and you know, it's Amazon, they can do a TV show. I don't know. Yeah. The thing that surprised me about this movie is that it's crazy. Like the things that are happening are insane, but the movie does not try to explain it, it doesn't try to make Eternia realistic, it doesn't try to give everything a gritty Christopher Nolan vibe. No, it just fully commits to the insanity and just moves on. And I think that's really smart because I mean, let's face it, you can't give He-Man the gritty Batman treat. That's something you cannot do. The movie knows that. And okay, this might be a stretch, but you know that's how I am. I was thinking about something that I remember realizing at a young age. I so I got the ADD, and there's a lot of things in school that I was bad at. And I reached a certain point where I was like, I'm sick of people just telling me what I'm bad at, and I have to improve that. Why can't I focus my energy on the things that I'm good at? You know, and I think that's what this movie does. It doesn't try to overexplain things at all, it just goes with the humor. It bulks up on the acting and the camp and the emotional moments instead. And I think that's why it works. Um now, the most important thing I need to talk about is Nicholas Galitzin. I had only seen him in the sheep detectives.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

Oh, right, right, right. I forgot we saw him in that.

SPEAKER_05 19:06

Yeah, yeah. But he's fantastic. I mean, and I don't think that the hard part of this role is playing He-Man. I think the hard part's playing Adam. Adam is awkward, he's earnest, he's carrying around this like mountain of emotional baggage from his insane childhood. And then somehow he's still out here being a functioning adult. Sure, I am very confused about how he doesn't fully understand that you can't talk about your fantastical upbringing on a first date.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

No, if it's more that he doesn't know or that he just doesn't care. He thinks that's his genuine self. You know how people tell you, put your genuine self out there.

SPEAKER_04 19:48

Absolutely, man.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Like well, it's not working out for him so well, but I don't blame those people for that thinking that he's sane.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

But there is a piece here, sushi, which is that he's very attractive. And it reminds remind me of it.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Yeah, that helps. I do like that they do the thing that they do with a lot of these uh movies where you know the hero character is insanely attractive, where yeah, somebody has to remark about well, it reminded me of like that John Hamm character from 30 Rock.

SPEAKER_05 20:20

He's this guy who's just coasting through life just because he's handsome, so nobody notices he's kind of off. Um but what I loved is that he really played these He-Man and Adam parts almost like two different characters. But and this is the thing, not for a single moment, even when he's fully D-Man decked out, does he stop feeling like Adam is in there? Like the muscles aren't the point, it's the person underneath. One of my favorite parts of the movie is the first transformation sequence. So we know about all his struggles, his crazy ass family drama. And when he finally transforms, it was really powerful. There was some really cool work that was done in the performance and in the physicality. So it reminded me of this movie Upgrade, which is yeah, I loved it. This Logan Marshall Green movie where he's paraplegic, he gets an implant in his brain, and suddenly his body can do things he didn't know he could. I.e., he just starts fighting dudes with crazy skills. In that movie, it's amazing because his body is doing these crazy physical acts and his face is just like, what the fuck? You know. And that's what happened in the first scene where we see, quote, He Man fight. He is reacting to his own body in real time. He literally looks down at his abs and is confused. When he becomes He Man, he's not suddenly cool. He's discovering it. You can see him being like, Oh my God, did I do that? His body, what he's capable of. And I think that's a big credit to him. And also to um the movie's second unit director and stunt coordinator, Liang Yang, who you may know as the badass guy in the Mission Impossible fallout bathroom scene with Henry Cavill and Tom Cruise. And he's worked on again, so many of these second unit directors have worked on just some real gems. And he's been out here. So I thought that was great work. And then the movie, it spends so much time establishing how badly Adam wants to help people, how much pressure he's under, how desperately he wants to live up to his father's expectations. That again, when the transformation finally happens, it becomes this huge emotional release. Like I was really moved. And that's not something you expect to say about a He-Man movie, but here we are. The movie also really gets into fathers and sons, expectations and hypermasculinity in a way that genuinely caught me off guard. It's not rejecting masculinity exactly, more like it's interrogating it, you know, the pressure, the ego, the performance of it, and the way that some fathers think that becoming more masculine is a way to protect their sons. There's a scene with Adam and his father that just really, really landed for me. It's one of those conversations that feels like something people wish they could actually have their dads to finally hear where they're coming from and why they did what they did and hear the connection. And it's happening in a movie where Skeletor is running around looking like a Halloween decoration that gains sentient.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:49

That's the beauty of this movie. Okay. Speaking of which Jared Leto.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

I know. Oh man.

SPEAKER_05 23:58

I was surprised too. You know, I have spent years finding Jared Leto to be so it's hard to even come up with a word.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

You know what it is, though, I think also with this movie? They gave him a very specific section of the movie where I think they allowed him some release creatively.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

I'm just going off the dome here, but is he really that unlike Skeletor? He's larger than life, abusive to his co-workers, full of ego, thinks he's the most important person in the room, is greedy for power, like he is with his band's cult. I think Jared Leto is Skeletor.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Yeah, I mean, that's probably why he's so good at playing him, because it even doesn't matter what skeletor mood he's playing. Like whether he's being stupid and funny or he's being intimidating or scary, he nails it. So yeah, I think you're on to something. I know we're kind of poking fun at him, but it actually really does line up well with the character.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:10

Like, think about how he played the Joker and how dumb that was, how self-important and silly. But that's what this script calls for.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:21

Honestly, it just kills me how funny he is. He really under well, I don't know if he understood the assignment or if it was the directing and the editing, but yeah, or the assignment happened to be one that he's done before.

SPEAKER_04 25:38

It's pretty wild.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

The assignment was very open-ended.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:43

Oh my god. And and I think he and Allison Bree play off really well. She's playing Eva Lynn, and she is just delicious. She is basically playing the assistant manager who has to translate her terrible boss's decision to the rest of the staff.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Yeah, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_05 25:58

Like Skeletor wants something insane, and she's just there going, like, okay, guys, I know we're not crazy about this, but we gotta pull it together. Come on. And it's such a specific energy that I love. And I have to say also, this movie I think is largely targeted towards kids and then also to older fans of the original property. But I think what it's really missing out on here is I think it can have a really strong queer audience. I mean, I think there has always been a queer fan base for He-Man. Certainly, Skeletor is coded a certain way. And there's the whole Prince Adam thing. He's sort of got the beautiful hair. You've got the transformation with the harness. And then here in this, it's really got a starring actor who's best known for playing gay characters and things like red, white, and royal blue. I don't know if that's a coincidence or not, but I think that there is a lot of fun to be had here. I think it's like a safe movie that doesn't poke fun at people.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

For sure.

SPEAKER_05 27:08

And it's very colorful, funny. And I will tell you, there is some great uh double entendres as well. So I hope it finds an audience there too, because I think it's just an awful lot of fun. Also, just it's very funny. There's all kinds of really silly jokes. I immediately know which one you're talking about from earlier. I won't reveal it.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:34

One of my other favorite jokes in the whole movie, uh, I won't give it away exactly, but Adam tries to give a motivational speech as he-man to Eternus soldiers using corporate HR language because that was what he worked at. And I can't stop thinking about it. It completely blindsided me. I've been telling people about it. I'm not gonna spoil it, but the the Eternus Soldiers reaction to him using HR jargon is very fun.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:06

And then, all right, there's a Dolph Long Gren cameo. Is that okay to mention?

SPEAKER_01 28:11

Yeah, I don't think that's a plot-based thing, but I think that's something people will be happy to see, you know.

SPEAKER_04 28:17

Hell yeah. Well, that leads into when he appeared on screen.

SPEAKER_05 28:23

I watched two completely separate bald men sitting in separate rows at the same time start clapping and then start nudging their kids who are there with them. And I was like, okay, we got two independent bald men clapping in response to Dolph Lundgren. Uh all right, I fit in here. I am one of those people. We are middle-aged people watching this. Um, but this is a movie for people reliving their childhoods to a degree, and hey, I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:54

So yeah, I mean, just I can't fully explain why the movie works. I don't understand how they even pitched it. It's so crazy and all over the place, and so not what you expect from a children's franchise movie. But yeah, I loved this campy weird movie. So for my score, I'm also giving it a 4.5.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

Nice.

SPEAKER_05 29:20

I loved it. I loved how similar to another Jared Leto movie, very different one, in the most recent Tron movie. I felt like I was on an amusement park ride. You know, if you can see it in a larger screen format, like an IMAX or Adolby, or I really want to see it in Screen X, that crazy one where they project on the side of the theater. Yeah, I think it would be a blast.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

We'll have to check it out. I'll see what's happening.

SPEAKER_05 29:49

I really liked it for quality. I also gave it a four. And that's because of the humor, the acting. Idris Elba has my favorite performance I've seen from him in like 10 years.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

It was great.

SPEAKER_05 30:05

So loose and funny, but then also serious and down.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

He's got a cheap ball smile for like at least 75% of this performance. It's great.

SPEAKER_04 30:20

It was nuts, but also he made me really feel like the mustache helped so much.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Oh, yeah, the mustache. You just smile with this ridiculous mustache.

SPEAKER_05 30:34

It was great, and he hit the dramatic moments too. But you could tell. One of my favorite things is when you see a movie and you can tell the people making it are having the time of their lives. And that's really what I thought of this. So, yeah, I know it didn't do great at the box office, but I hope that it lives on in some way. And if not, I'm just excited to see Nicholas Galitzine and more because he was awesome. Yeah, really good stuff. Granted, okay, they try to make him look like he's not gigantic and buff at the beginning. You can't fool me. Are you kidding me? So yeah, we have the power to enjoy a He-Man movie in 2026. Is that a good transition?

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Yeah, that sounds fine.

SPEAKER_05 31:21

All right, that'll suffice. Okay, onward.

Movie Review: Scary Movie (2026)

SPEAKER_05 31:27

Friends, our next movie is Scary Movie. It is technically the sixth one, but that's not included in the name. I don't know why. And it's directed by Michael Tiddies. Tiddy T I Tiddi Today. Tid? It's T-I-D-D-E-S. I'm so sorry, Michael. It's starring Anna Ferris, Regina Hall, and the Wands brothers. We're all back together for the first time in, I don't know, 20-ish years. And it's a horror parody where the original crew gets pulled back into the mayhem involving killers, monsters, supernatural creatures, I believe. And apparently no horror IP is safe. So Sush, what did you think?

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Well, I've seen the at least the first through fourth scary movies. I can't remember if I ever saw the fifth one because of how long after the others it came out, and because it didn't even have Anna Ferris or Regina Hall in it.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

But I definitely remember enjoying the other ones. Anyway, I remember we found out about this new scary movie back when we saw Scream 7, actually.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

That stands out because I remember coming across some article or short that mentioned a special version of the trailer that premiered before that movie that made fun of the franchise. That was so fun. Yeah, have you seen the version with someone asking what the Scream franchise would be without Neb Campbell? And I think Shorty answers Scream Six.

SPEAKER_03 32:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

That's the one that we saw. But anyway. Yeah, I thought the trailer was hilarious, and no doubt. I would definitely see it given the original four leads were back for this one. Seeing the movie, I definitely had a good time. And though I have a feeling I'd probably enjoy one of the first two more if I re-watched them again. I think I'd probably rate this in the same ballpark at least. I was kind of curious who directed this, mostly because I thought there might be a chance that Keenan, Keenan Ivory Wayne's, was back to direct since he did the first two. But I ended up finding out that while he didn't direct this time around, uh, he still contributed as a writer. But I think the director we ended up getting Michael Tiddy's or Tid's, which I made sure to note, but I didn't pronounce properly.

SPEAKER_05 33:50

You know, given that he directed a scary movie, I think he would be crazy.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

I'm sure uh Marlon would have so much.

SPEAKER_05 33:59

I don't think we're the first to pronounce his name that way.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Anyway, this guy also directed the A Haunted House movies.

SPEAKER_05 34:07

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

Uh so that was a great choice, I think, given how those movies similarly parody recent horror films. Also, Ashley, uh, I'm not sure if you saw Titty's other parody, Fifty Shades of Black.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

What?

SPEAKER_05 34:24

Oh, I do remember that coming out. I've not seen it. No.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Well, since you have it, I'd probably be down to see it.

SPEAKER_05 34:31

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

I just wonder if I actually have to watch the actual Fifty Shades to get it.

SPEAKER_04 34:37

Oh god, no.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Anyway, I think the writing was pretty solid overall. My favorite part, like with the previous Gary movies, were the non-horror references actually. If that's something you enjoyed in the previous movies, for the most part, I feel like they seem to work a lot better again in this movie, which I'm assuming probably has to do with having the Wains back involved in the writing. Also, given that Ashley and I have been seeing horror movies more frequently over the past couple of years, I think we likely appreciated and enjoyed the references to recent horror more so than in the previous movies. I know Ashley kept leaning over to tell me how much the movie was like the recent Scream movies. I think five and six, since I think you watched those.

SPEAKER_05 35:22

I did, the two you haven't seen, and it's very part of this movie.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Yeah. One thing that I want to bring up, mostly because it's really noticeable and even becomes the basis of some jokes, is that this movie is clearly written by Gen X and millennials, even if it tries to appeal to Gen Z and younger audiences.

SPEAKER_02 35:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

I think that while most of the jokes in this movie work, the ones that may not work as well seem to be tied to stereotypes that people of different generations often come up with about each other. So while I felt it was more making fun of the differences in expectation, intention, and consideration when it comes to certain subjects, like use of gender pronouns, like we see in the trailer. Uh I wouldn't discredit anyone that might be closer to the subject matter in some way that could uh take offense to some of this. A big part of why I think a lot of people were looking forward to this movie, though, was the original four returning. So yeah, the cast was a big deal. Marlon and Sean Wins, Ana Ferris, Regina Hall, are all back of Shorty, Gay Ray, Cindy and Brenda. Our main characters now have kids. Cindy's kids, Tuesday and Sarah, the latter who was played by Olivia Rose Keegan. I thought did a perfect Cindy voice for the first third or so of the movie. It was kind of weird, but I think I did notice she kind of eased off of it gradually, so I think that was alright. We got Brenda's kids, Brad, played by Greg Wayans, and Day, the non-binary character that we met in the trailer, played by Sidney Park. Also, we got Dave Sheridan, Cherio Terry, Lachlan Monroe, and Chris Elliott all returning to play their characters, Doofy, Gil Harristorm, Officer Greg, and Shorthand. Also other cameos from cast members of other previous scary movies, but I'm not gonna mention who specifically since some of them fall into spoiler territory. Design elements, for the most part, were in line with the better of the previous scary movies. Nothing too standout about the design or music, but I will say there were definitely a few moments where they were leveraged to set up or add to certain jokes. Set and costume design, great as always, and it really shows how they're the strongest design elements. The Wayne's often leverage and parodying horror movies and pop culture and memes. One unexpected design element in this movie was in the VFX animation area.

SPEAKER_05 37:57

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

I can't get into detail because spoilers, but man, surprisingly well done. As far as expectations, I think what we got was pretty much in line with the trailers. Are there a few twists? Sure. But I think they're appreciated in a movie that weirdly probably ends up referencing itself as much as the horror movies, top culture and memes, it also pokes fun at. So for my ratings, I gave it a three and a half for enjoyment and uh a three and a half for quality. All in all, even though this movie, again, is clearly written by Gen Xers and Millennials for mostly that same audience, I think it still works for the younger end of those who'd be uh allowed to see it because the filmmakers and older casts weren't afraid of making fun of themselves. But definitely not a movie where anything should be taken seriously as the commentary on anything, because I honestly just think it was meant to be stupid. Like all these parodies are. Quality-wise, I'd say I'd rate most of the scary movie films fairly low in quality. Yeah, definitely. Though admittedly, they probably keep it there at least half intentionally in hopes of making things funnier. I know we've even given some higher than expected quality ratings for low budget movies that lived in that characteristic.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

But I honestly don't think these movies really embody their low budgetness. So I think three and a half is fair. It's probably the highest quality rating I'd give to any scary movie. So given that I do feel like the quality in this one is on the higher end of the spectrum for the franchise as a whole, uh, yeah, I think I think it matches right. Uh, even though I probably don't want to list off the specific movies just to avoid spoilers, I think I'd probably recommend seeing the movies and maybe even videos or memes that this movie parodies. I know I watched one on YouTube made by New Rock Stars earlier, which I thought ran through a pretty solid list. But yeah, I know there's some references on that list, even I have to be sure to check out. So that's really my only recommendation at this time uh for anything. Okay, or maybe see the two haunted house movies that City's also directed if you haven't already. Probably not as good as a scary movie and definitely not as much of a cutaway type of parody movie and more story focused. But yo, Marlon Wayans is still hilarious in them. So yeah, check that out. Uh Ashley, what'd you think of this?

SPEAKER_05 40:33

Well, you know, I was excited about it because for the first time in my life, I actually know what they're parodying. Like I actually did the homework. Same because I didn't grow up watching horror, partly because bless my feminist mother, she was very clear with me in the 80s and 90s that the slasher movies of that era were just about violence towards women. And that really turned me off for a long time. But also, honestly, I don't know if I am built for it. Like, I'm not the person who watches a scary movie and goes right to bed. If it's a really good scary movie, I'm gonna spend the next three days convinced that like a log is gonna fly into my car uh and kill me on the highway. But sushi and I have been digging into a lot more horror after over the last couple of years. We watched the final destination movies, worked through Scream. We watched weird horror, funny horror, elevated horror, gross horror, unfortunately. And somewhere in there it became someone who actually really looks forward to it. I think there's a real uh creativity and craftsmanship to getting people to be scared. I've come to really like it. And yeah, we watched all the scary movies. Did I love them? No, they're kind of scattershot and a lot grosser than I personally like. Chris Elliott, I'm looking at you. Um but when Scary Movie Six was announced, I was genuinely pumped because I know what they're talking about finally. There are moments in the movie where I was excited before the joke had even landed because I recognized the reference. I was like, hell yeah, I'm in on the joke. Recognizing something doesn't mean it's automatically funny, but it was cool that I understood why these movies existed. I wasn't outside of the joke, I was in on it. Okay, what is this movie actually parodying? So similar to the previous scary movies, they usually follow along roughly with the plot of one or two popular movies at the time. So the original one based on Scream, and I would say, I know what you did last summer. This one is very clearly about Scream 5, Scream Six, and Final Destination bloodlines, which for the record are all great. What I think makes those three movies great is that they figured out why they needed to exist. Like Scream 5 and 6 make Toxic Fandom the actual villain. They're all about nostalgia and legacy characters and our obsession with franchises. That's a fun take. Then Bloodlines takes the whole death can come for anyone anxiety that powered the originals, and it finds a new angle. It's less about random tragedy and more about the idea that hey, your family's baggage is coming for you, whether you like it or not. So those movies they have a really strong thesis and it makes them stand out from other franchise movies. Scary Movie Six, though, is mostly references.

SPEAKER_03 43:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:45

And that's kind of the problem. Don't get me wrong, I laughed. There's a get out joke that goes somewhere I genuinely didn't expect a joke that I think is gonna be a Michael Jackson biopic joke, but. Completely blindsides me. I think those are probably two of the biggest laughs in the movie. But mostly watching this is like watching SNL when your favorite actor's hosting. Some sketches are gonna land, some are gonna bomb. You're just gonna be sitting there waiting out the bad ones to see what's coming up. Yeah. And I'll say the younger cast was really committed. I really liked uh Olivia Rose Keegan and Sarah Lee Nassif, both of them playing Cindy's daughters, really understood the movie they're in. And then we got Anna Ferris, Regina Hall sharing scenes again, and the movie gets that little jolt of energy. I really remembered why I liked these people in the first place. And the moments that work best for me were when the movie took a reference and did something unexpected. Because again, reference, not a joke. Deadpool, I'm looking at you. Reference, not a joke. The reference is a setup. What you do with it's the joke. And when this movie actually does that, it works. But okay, you kind of touched on this. I need to talk about the gender stuff. Cause I went on a journey with it. So one of the early trailers has a bit where someone's being attacked on a train. A bystander says something like, Oh no, he's gonna kill that woman. And the victim corrects them saying they're non-binary. She's like, No, he's gonna kill them. And um, I wasn't crazy about seeing that in the trailer. Trans and non-binary people in America are facing a lot of persecution right now. Legislation, it's a really hard time. So I don't think that it's the funniest thing to joke about right now. Now, watching the movie, to me at least, it felt more like the joke was on the people on the train who were being weird about getting confused about gender than about the actual person themselves. But I'm genuinely not sure what the movie intended. So after I finished watching the movie, I remembered wait a minute, Marlon Wayans has a trans son and is really uh supportive of him and talks about it a lot. So I looked into it a bit, and actually in interviews, he talks about how he put that character and another character in the movie specifically to explore what he's been through with his son, the awkwardness of older people not knowing how to react the way young people think the older people are so dumb because they don't get it. So it made me feel better to know that there was an intention there and that it was a positive intention. The movie, one of the characters who is trans has a father who is trying to figure out how to express his love. It's awkward and weird, and that's what some of the jokes are about. So I don't know if the film communicates that idea clearly on its own.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

Like I think that example that you just brought up did, but you kind of have to absorb the full scene because if you take only the part of it up until the kid leaves and you don't wait for the dad's reaction, I think it completely has a different feel to it. But I think once you get his reaction, it goes from being something that could be perceived as an attack. Like weirdly, there's some sort of acceptance, yeah. In the way that probably the kid actually wants, even though the dad doesn't realize that that's all the kid probably wants. Right, right. Yeah, I just did find that it makes sense. I think it is very much like I would say, making fun of the fact that older people have this frustration over having to adjust to how the world is and having to learn this new thing, like with our parents when they have to learn our stupid lingo. There we go. Yeah. So it's kind of along the same lines, but obviously not exactly the same.

SPEAKER_05 48:13

Yeah, and I sort of wanted to talk about it because the way the movie was promoted, I've seen some taglines saying stuff like every line will be crossed, which makes you think that these jokes are gonna be edgy and sort of attacking people. But then you also have the insight from the creators that that's not what they intended. And so if this is a topic that's difficult for you, if it's uncomfortable for you, uh just know going in that it it's gonna be a little weird.

SPEAKER_01 48:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:46

But it does help to know that the filmmakers' hearts are in the right place.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

Yeah, and also and I don't know if you agree with this, but I definitely feel that the farther you get into the movie, the more you kind of understand where the weighing's is work at with the humor, the concept behind this. Because it's very much like I was saying about the idea of aging or the differences in generations.

SPEAKER_05 49:16

Yeah, and I do think that's the closest that the movie has to a central thesis, which is like, oh no, we're old. What is happening? We don't know how to deal with the younger generation. So I think there's some of that in there. Now, on a totally different note, earlier this year, we did watch the haunted house movies directed by Michael Today's. And after what I can only describe as an alarming amount of research, I've conducted that Marlon Wams is one of our leading scholars of having sex with things you should not have sex with.

SPEAKER_03 49:56

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:57

If there is a ghost, a doll, a couch, a cursed object, any category of thing that absolutely should not be involved romantically with a human person.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

Is it romantically, though?

SPEAKER_05 50:12

Romantic is a bit of a um uh you're romanticizing it. Oh no, I am all right. Here, let me say it another way. Marlon's gonna fuck it. Marlon's gonna have his ass out. Fucking adult. Now, throughout Scary Movie Six, I was carrying a very specific fear, not fear of the killer, but fear that Marlon's bare ass was gonna be humping on something strange. Oh my god. And I regret to inform you that um my fears weren't entirely unfounded, uh, but it's not quite as bad as uh as the Haunted movies. So there you have it. All right. And I guess just the last thing here there's been some negative talk about the movie on TikTok, and I think uh yeah, it's not a great movie, man. But I also think it doesn't promote itself as a great movie. I don't think the originals were great movies.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

Honestly, if they titled this scary movie six, I think there would have been less of that. Maybe because you gotta remember, and actually, I looked it up and feel and that's one of the things that made me feel old. The first scary movie was released 26 years ago. I know so I mean, if you didn't call this scary movie six and some kids saw this, and then they're like, what the hell is this crap? I'd get it. They wouldn't understand that a lot of the references are about itself, so true, and it is kind of crap.

SPEAKER_05 51:43

I mean, it's amusing, but it's not crap, it's stupid, it's very stupid. And none of these movies have gotten amazing reviews. I looked back at the um Rotten Tomato scores for one and two. I think one had like 50, maybe. Uh, two had like 15. Oh, and I think this one's in a similar range. So I think it delivered on expectations for me, knowing the franchise. And yeah, there were some people I liked seeing. I liked seeing all the actors together. Yeah. So okay. My enjoyment score is lower than yours, man. It's 2.5.

SPEAKER_00 52:22

I get it.

SPEAKER_05 52:23

Um because it's again the Saturday. I don't like dumb stuff as much as you. But ooh, that Michael Jackson thing and the get out thing.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

Uh yeah, they're most good.

SPEAKER_05 52:36

Some of the final destination stuff, hell yeah. But you know, it mostly left me wanting to watch those movies that it's based on.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

You want to know something funny that we didn't well, I don't know if you caught it, but I totally didn't catch it until I was uh putting my notes together for this. They did show that parody of the Michael Jackson thing. Oh, we could talk about that. We're not cutting any of that stuff.

SPEAKER_05 53:02

All right, excellent. Uncut.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:05

And okay, for quality, I gave it a two, man. It's a scary movie. What do you want me to do?

SPEAKER_01 53:10

Yeah, man. I thought it was better than the other ones. I feel like it's very much like many of the other movies that were a huge hit initially because it was such an innovative idea.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 53:25

And the franchise was carried down for multiple iterations, and the original people have returned to it, and everybody is just like, oh, okay, cool.

SPEAKER_05 53:38

Yeah, I mean, it's good, but for me, there's like real horror movies that I like better. I would rather watch Freaky or Happy Death Day.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

But what I meant to say was that this franchise has basically dealt with the same issues as other ones, where the initial movie is very innovative and fresh, but then the follow-ups are pretty much the same. And it does that thing where sure the quality might go down, like how good the ideas are, and you might not like it as much, but the polish is a lot better.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

Like everything just looks a lot cleaner.

SPEAKER_01 54:17

The CG doesn't look as janky. So yeah, I think that was noticeably better than the technical skill.

SPEAKER_05 54:23

Yeah, I get it. I get it.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Explosions and things like that.

SPEAKER_05 54:28

Yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, it did look a lot better for sure. So I would say if you like foolishness, uh if you like silliness and stupidity in your comedy, you're gonna like it. If you watch every horror movie that comes out, it's fun. But again, my recommendation what I'm gonna turn to if I want a funny horror movie, it's gonna be like Freaky or Happy Death Day or even the hard Ives killer. You know, there's some good funny horror out now. But yeah, there you have a scary movie.

SPEAKER_03 55:05

Scary movie.

SPEAKER_05 55:06

So scary.

TV Episode Recap: Spider-Noir - Episode 5 - "Betrayal"

SPEAKER_05 55:11

Oh man, what was that? I think it was my spidey sense telling me it's time for some spider noir. Sushi, what do we got going on?

SPEAKER_01 55:23

Well, uh, we got episodes five and six. Ooh. Start with episode five titled Betrayal. The episode begins in the immediate aftermath of Kat discovering Ben's secret identity as the spider. Ben reveals his origins as the spider to Kat, retelling the story of how he got his powers during the war. Kat chooses to keep the revelation to herself, but the knowledge fundamentally reshapes their interactions, conversations now layered with unspoken tension. Ben is wary of how much she might reveal, while Kat begins questioning whether she can trust someone who has been living a double life all along. Elsewhere, Robbie's role continues to expand as he documents the growing wave of metahuman incidents throughout the city. At a meeting with Howard Walters, the editor-in-chief of the Daily Bugle, we see how his reporting paints a broader picture of a city slipping into chaos as more individuals with unusual abilities emerge.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Robbie demands Howard Walters print the story as written this time, and Howard begrudgingly accepts. But Robbie continues with additional demands of a printed retraction for his story on Lonnie Lincoln and Flint Marco, and a nameplate for his desk. Marco stops in to meet with Lonnie, trying to convince him to work for Silvermane, giving their lack of opportunities. Robbie stops by Ben's office as he and Janet push forward with their investigation into the group of former prisoners of war. Comparing their findings, they begin to confirm that Flint, Lonnie, Addison, and others all share a common history tied to their captivity. This discovery suggests that their powers are not random mutations, but the results of something that happened to them during that time. Janet, who had previously considered stepping away from the case, becomes more invested again, recognizing the importance of what they're uncovering. We catch up with Leiden, the man with electric powers from the previous episode in jail as a detective roughs them up during an interrogation. At the same time, Silvermane continues consolidating power after eliminating what he believes was the traitor in his ranks. Although he appears confident on the surface, his actions during a scene with Kat at the alcove reveal an increasing paranoia. He tightens his control over his organization, demanding greater loyalty and scrutinizing those around him more closely. The pressure quickly falls on Flint Marco, whose already fragile state is worsened by the psychological stress of knowing Kat's secret. Flint's internal conflict becomes one of the episode's central threads as he arrives with Lonnie at the alcove to have a meet with Silvermane. Having overheard Kat's confession in the previous episode, Flint now carries the truth that she orchestrated the attempt on Silvermane's life. However, instead of immediately exposing her, he hesitates, torn between his lingering feelings for Kat and his loyalty to the man who has defined much of his recent life. Robbie stops by the hospital to meet with Dr. Faber. Ben sneaks into her office and digs through her files as Robbie meets with her outside. But she storms off once Robbie implies she has something to do with them gaining superpowers. Ben finds a hidden compartment in one of the file cabinet drawers that contains additional files, and even though he's interrupted by Faber, she returns to her office, leading to a hilarious scene where he impersonates a patient having a mental health crisis. Unfortunately for him, Faber's assistant ends up recognizing him from the same place. Ben's origin story is the spider that he told Kat at at the start of the episode took place in France.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

Back at Ben's office, he and Robbie go through the files, confirming Dr. Faver was actually trying to help the soldiers after they were experimented on by the Germans, though she likely ended up making the situation worse for them.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:40

Ben asks Robbie for time to give Kat a heads up before his story goes to print, to which Robbie tells him he'll delay for a day. Ben meets with Kat and they end up deciding to run off together. He actually ends up meeting with Janet at a diner later to tell her about it, seeming surprised to find that she's actually really happy for him.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:02

Though things might not go as planned, as we see Flint showing increasingly erratic behavior as he secretly meets with Kat. It's revealed his physical condition continues to deteriorate and his powers become harder to control. As we near the end of the episode, the tension between all the central characters mounts steadily. Kat struggles to maintain her position without revealing the truth. Flint becomes more unstable, and Silvermane's suspicion threatens to turn back towards her and Ben. The episode ends with Kat arriving at Dr. Faber's in the pouring rain. Desperately, she asks Faber if the spider could hold the key to saving her patience, which Faber confirms, leading to Kat revealing to her that Ben is the one behind the mask. So, Ashley, what'd you think?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:51

Okay, well, I have many thoughts, and I have to start in the POW camp flashback because I can't stop thinking of the visuals of that. I wanted to talk about why I think it works because I think it's actually almost a masterclass and an old-timey horror. So it's so cool when we discover the whole testing area in the camp. It's really freaky. He walks in and there's all these men on cots, and oh my God, it's so crazy. You see that all of these jars, just like you know, a big mason jar, it looks like. And inside of them, they have these insects with giant wires coming out of the insects and going straight out the top of the jar into the POWs. They each have like four of them. It was freaky, it freaked me out. There's something about the simplicity of it that got me because there's like a tactile wrongness that like big CGI can't do.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:58

It's like an island of Dr. Moreau or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:00

Yes, and also they're using common objects because our brains know glass jars, those are real. Those are real. Yeah, having them go from a jar to a human, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:15

Isn't that cool? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:16

You see from one side the spider guy, and he looks relatively normal. He turns his head. Holy shit, he's got all these spider eyes. That was freaky. And when the blanket comes down and he's got just a big old bug torso, that was so awesome. This is one where I started watching it in color, and immediately when this POW flashback happened, I switched back to black and white.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

Oh, right. Because of the eyes, probably.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:50

Yes, it was so cool. Then Paige in this scene is doing what he does best. Like after he gets bitten, his vision goes haywire. He's clocking the spider in the jar. And then he just snaps and he's like, earn it, earn it all. And here's the thing I keep coming back to with this role. His whole deal as an actor, that sort of heightened theatrical expressiveness that he memed all the time, it's always been there. Most modern movies, when they put him in, he has to be in the right context for that kind of acting to work well.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:30

But if you put him in 1930s, black and white with actual chaos happening around him, it's not weird at all. Yeah, it actually works. He felt exactly right. The aesthetic finally caught up to him. And I think there's something really beautiful about where he is in his career. When he was younger, sure, he did weird stuff then, but he was also doing more mainstream romantically, sometimes more conventional stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:57

City of angels.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:58

Yes. Oh, that is a sad movie. And I don't want the words. Wasn't that the song?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:07

But as he's gotten older, Nick Cage has genuinely gotten to do all of these weird roles. He's gotten to let loose, and it feels like he's connecting with something he really loves. So that whole scene with the aesthetic and with his performance, I just was like, this is where Cage is meant to be. And the show goes and makes that part of his character, his sort of eccentricities, which I think is super smart. When Ben and Kat are talking at the beginning of the episode and he's recounting what he went through, he tells her that it was hard for him to be human after the bite, to remember how to act. We see in the flashback all these insane movements he's making. It reminded me of our discussion of Masters of the Universe, how much I loved when the Adam character, his face is doing one thing and his body's doing something else. The scene where he realizes his powers. You get some of that here too, where he's surprised and trying to control himself. It's great. And he tells her that when he was trying to remember how to be human, the way he would handle it is he would go to the movies, he would study the actors, how they moved, how they talked, and he would try to emulate them so that he could fit into society. And I don't know if that's like a personal thing for Nicolas Cage, but for me as a neurodivergent person, and honestly, on top of that, a weirdo. Uh, I really relate to that feeling of having to present a more acceptable version of yourself, especially when you're still figuring things out. I definitely had to do it when I was younger. And he's been performing normal his whole life. No wonder this Spider Man version we've got here is exhausted. Because he's been trying to act like a human for what 20 years or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:05

And then speaking of performance, we also get some great moments in this episode with our uh electro stand-in. I think it's Leyden is his name. So he is doing vocal exercises in a jail cell while a cop throws coffee in his face. He's doing Julius Caesar quotes upon being freed. He's treating the whole thing like opening night when the situation is actually terrible. And then when Silvermane walks in and immediately goes, I see you like to talk. Can you listen for a second? He just instantly deflates and just stops what he's doing. And I thought that was so cool because you've got also that other type of performance. Obviously, he wants to be an actor, the character. And I think the actor himself is doing a really great job. And Lamarne Morris, I love him. He is so fun in this show. I really liked that scene where he was negotiating for his old job. I also think he had a really fantastic line that I jotted down. When Ben was telling him about how deep his relationship is with Kat, or at least how deep he thinks it is. Ben says, Oh, you're going to tell me to be careful. Robbie says, careful's for stock tips and hot sauce. Matters of the heart, I say, go for broke or don't bother at all. And I was just like, hell yeah. The writing is so fun. The performance is locked in. It was great. Then there's the whole thing with Ben and Kat. I'm nervous about how things are going to turn out. Okay. He is gone all in on this woman. He should not have. He's singing at breakfast. That's pretty nuts. Telling Janet how she should run the office. He's planning a beach trip. You're rooting for him, but I mean, come on, you never fall for a femme fatal and a noir. That's just not gonna work out. The moment where Kat's in the bar with Silvermane and Flint walks in with Lonnie, I thought there was some great tension between them. They haven't really seen each other since they fought. I loved seeing him deal with his different alliances. Just lots of fun stuff this episode. And I think the ending lands exactly where I'd been expecting it to land. Flint's got this whole, I would have killed for you. I would have done anything for you if you asked. I never got the chance line, which is great. And then Kat is moved and gives up Ben's name. Which, yeah, I mean, I knew she was gonna betray him the whole time. That's what her type of character does, but I still thought it was a great performance from her. You know, it doesn't feel rote at all. She really shows a lot of regret that I wasn't expecting to see in a scene like this. And I'm excited to see what happens next. So yeah, I really liked the episode. What do you think, Sush?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:10

Well, I really thought this was a good episode as far as advancing the story.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:15

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:17

Though because of that, the time I spent taking notes about this was probably stuff that ended up going more into the recap than anything opinion or assessment based. So even though a lot happened during this episode, there's like I was saying, probably less for me to react to, really. As far as things I enjoyed. If it wasn't a regular thing before, I like that Janet and Robbie are teaming up to Ben shit. I mean, I love any combination of the three working on a case, but I appreciate that the two people who probably have to deal with the consequences of Ben's actions or inaction the most are kind of getting back at him for it in a fun way, though. Yeah. Also, I don't get why this detective thinks that it's a good idea to forcefully interrogate somebody who clearly exhibited electric powers.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:17

And throwing a liquid on him, no less.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

Like yeah, like he doesn't know that water conducts electricity. Okay, dummy. Uh he totally deserves to get killed the way that he did in the it was a great death.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:29

I I love that character.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:31

I thought it was kind of funny. Also, since I know we were speculating whether Leydon was this universe's electro, I actually found out that Leyden is actually supposed to be this dimension's megawatt. Ooh. Because Dirk Leyden was that character's real name in the Spider-Man comics.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:52

Oh, okay, cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:54

It's actually Megawatt, not electro, like we were speculating. So just uh adding that to the notes. Um, I like that we get the details on Ben's origin as the spider. It was cool how his origin also somehow ties into the other superpowered people appearing in New York. And moreover, I'm really interested to see how the theory of him being able to save the others somehow is going to work. Because I wasn't really clear on uh what's supposed to happen.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:24

But dream him of spider goo, I can only assume.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:27

Yeah, or his blood, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:29

Oh, speaking of which, it was pretty repulsive when he first sees the spider webs come out of his wrist.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:36

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:37

Pretty nasty.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:38

I thought the Phil Noir moment that we got with Ben and Kat was really fun. I mean, obviously, probably the worst idea given that everything is going to shit right now. The two of them are just like, hey, let's run off together. But I guess they really don't care that much about their friends.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:56

I guess. Oh, they're just wrapped up.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:01

I know it's probably either because they're short on episodes, or maybe it's a Phil Noah thing I don't know about, or maybe it's just kind of poorly written. But I did find it funny how Lonnie just goes along with working for Silver Me with that much pressure from Flint. Like, dude can't pretend that he hasn't noticed that Flint's clearly got some physical issues, yeah, even before we get to the emotional ones he has dealing with cat. So yeah, I just thought that was kind of a dumb call on his part. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:31

Well, I thought it was interesting because Lonnie kind of is like, hey, racism exists and we're gonna die soon. So join up. That was his case. Like, what else are you gonna do? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:45

That's why I was like, he was just like, hey, there's not much opportunity to do this because it's opportunity.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:53

I mean, the 30s were rough, but I wouldn't want to be hanging out with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:58

But I guess they must be under the assumption, at least at this point, that they're not going to live for Splint definitely is, yeah. Yeah, I thought the Dr. Faber character was interesting. Yeah, same. I was pretty convinced that she was the one who was experimenting on the soldiers, but I guess she was trying to help them after the Germans actually did that.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:18

Okay, but she's still not helping them, and it's clear, so I don't get why she still thinks she can.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:23

Because the next time she's gonna figure it out, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:26

You need to take some time for self-reflection, lady. These dudes are not any better off since you've like been looking at them. So yeah, probably stop, reassess, figure out where you're gonna go with this. But yeah, overall, I enjoyed the episode, even if it was mostly because there was so much that it contributed towards the current plot and providing the origin story of the spider as well as some of the backstory for the soldiers. One thing that I think is clear, especially after seeing this episode, is that I think I'm really starting to categorize things on the show into buckets of things that I really like and things that kind of annoy me.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:04

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:05

Yeah, the good part is I definitely seem to enjoy a lot more things about the show that I dislike. But one thing that I dislike, and again, I don't know if this is a film or Detective Noir thing or just something with this show specifically, but it feels like some of the characters can't dig themselves out of whatever hole they're in.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:23

Oh, that's a noir thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:25

Okay. Yeah, for the most part, I'm fine with the portrayal that for most of the characters, but for characters like Flint and Stephen Kat, it really makes me roll my eyes. There's very like keep repeating the same mistakes to like keep making the same bad decision.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:43

There's a lot of doomed to fail type of vibes.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:47

And I get that, I just think like their two characters specifically are a little more whiny than I think the rest of the other ones. I feel like they're more dramatic when they do that. But I think the two of them sometimes come off as a little whiny.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:03

But the other thing is I just like the funnier characters better. I think a lot of the other characters, other than them, have some lightness to them. So you can probably notice the them being sort of downtrodden even more so compared to like a Robbie or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:20

Yeah. But yeah, like I said, just uh a lot more to like than to dislike. This episode, again, was great for story, and beyond that, just the moments of humor between the usual characters have come to really enjoy, namely Ben, Robbie, and Janet. So I really do hope we get some more cool action scenes in the next episode. Yeah. Since I love the one that we got between the spider and Megawatt previously. Megawatt rules. Just uh looking forward to that. So uh let's move on to episode six. Six.

TV Episode Recap: Spider-Noir - Episode 6 - "Nightmare on a Gurney"

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

Alright, moving on to episode six titled Nightmare on a Gurney. As episode six begins, we see Ben Packing moving ahead with this plan to leave the city with Kat and abandon his life as the spider. Before he can go, however, he receives an unexpected visit from Ogden, Dr. Faber's assistant, who reveals he was one of the soldiers rescued from the German POW camp during the war. Ogden explains that the same mutations that gave them their powers are now killing him, causing him to age at an extremely rapid rate despite being only in his 30s. Desperate, he urges Ben to stop Robbie from publishing his investigative article about Dr. Faber, insisting that the article will destroy your work and eliminate his only chance at survival. Ben refuses, so Ogden injects him with a sedative, knocking him unconscious, and transports him to Dr. Faber's secret lab. Ben later wakes up restrained on a medical gurney, realizing he's been captured. Faber confirms she knows he's the spider and intends to study him. She begins running tests on his blood and body, convinced that something within him holds the key to solving the mutation crisis affecting the other veterans. As the experiments begin, the episode interweaves flashbacks to Ben's early days after the war. These scenes show him struggling to understand his mutation, his body twitching uncontrollably, webbing emerging from his skin, and military doctors conducting their own invasive tests. In the present, Faber insists that unlike those earlier scientists, she's not trying to weaponize him but to cure the condition. She reveals her true motive. Ognan is her son, and everything she has done tracking down the veterans and experimenting on them has been driven by her desperation to save him. She also confirms that Kat was the one who revealed Ben's identity to her, forcing him to confront the betrayal in full. When his initial tests fail to produce results, Faber escalates her methods. She decides to extract genetic material directly from Ben's organs, sedating him and moving him into a surgical procedure. During the operation, Ben experiences intense hallucinations, blending his wartime trauma with disturbing spider imagery, emphasizing both the physical and psychological toll of his condition. Eventually, Faber makes a crucial breakthrough. While analyzing Ben's tissues, she discovers something unique in his biology that appears capable of stabilizing the mutations in others. Acting quickly, she uses this discovery to create a serum and injects Ogden. The effect is immediate and dramatic. His rapid aging reverses, restoring him to a healthy, youthful state. Mother and son celebrate what appears to be a successful cure, believing they've finally found a way out. However, Fabor soon reveals a darker plan. She explains that in order to avoid imprisonment for her actions, they'll need to eliminate Ben, suggesting that his death is necessary to protect their freedom. She hands the responsibility to Ogden, who picks up a gun and appears ready to carry it out. We cut to Silvermane and Flint on their way to Dr. Faber's, as Silvermane plans to recruit more henchmen from the other superhuman soldiers she's tried to help. At Faber's lab, Ben manages to loosen his restraints using his spider abilities, grabbing the keys with webbing and freeing himself. But we clearly see he's feeling the effects of the sedative still as he amusingly struggles and stumbles through the hallway. As Ognen suddenly appears to eliminate him, it seems like Ben's effort was wasted. However, remembering that Ben once saved his life during the war, Ogden ultimately chooses not to kill him, turning against his mother's plan by allowing Ben a chance to escape. The situation takes another turn as Silvermane and his grow growing team of superpowered allies arrive at the lab. As Faber's former patients are faced with the disturbing secrets she's been keeping, the confrontation quickly turns violent as they storm the facility, and both her and Ogden are killed in the chaos. The lab is destroyed in the process, wiping out much of the research, but also signaling how far Silvermain's willing to go to build his army. Amid the destruction, Ben manages to escape alive. Crucially, he leaves with the serum favor derived from his own biology, the first real breakthrough that could potentially stabilize or cure the other mutants. By the end of the episode, the stakes have escalated sharply. Ben now holds this key to potentially saving lives while Silvermane continues to tighten his grip on the city, setting the stage for the final stretch of the season. So, Ashley, what'd you think?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:47

I loved it. I mean, this is I've liked the whole series, you know. But this is the first one that kind of hit me in the gut. I think it was a lot more emotional. And then also this episode has a lot going on. Underneath all the spiders and Nick Cage screaming, there's some cool themes here and some great acting. And here's the thing Faber's a scientist who's been running experiments on people without their consent and telling herself that she's trying to help them. They know that she's trying to help. They don't know how far she's willing to go. And when she's confronted about the people who didn't survive, she is completely calm about it, like they were a necessary cost.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:36

That really hit me because that's not a fictional premise. The history of medicine has had a lot of favors in it. The show doesn't explicitly draw the line between medical overstepping, but it's there. And it genuinely made favor disturbing in a way that went beyond villain. When someone thinks that they're really genuinely trying to help to the point where they can ignore mangled dead bodies. That's nuts. And then there's Ogden, who has been complicit the whole time because he thought he was helping along with her. And now he's realizing, whoa, okay, things are deeply fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:17

And I love seeing that beat. Seeing someone in the middle of doing something bad start to understand what they're doing is, I think, more interesting than just a clear-cut villain. Then, okay, we've got to talk about the anesthesia sequence because I mean, Nicolas Cage. This is the cage I have been waiting for. There is this moment during the transformation where his body is doing things he can't control and his face is trying to catch up. And it's this awkward, almost modern dance physicality. I love it. Part of why it works too is his body's do doing all these things he doesn't expect. Oh my God, when he discovers the goo, the spider web coming from his wrist. That was nasty. That really grossed me out. And it's just great to see a bit of body horror in a comic book noir. Who knew they could fit another genre in here? Cage is doing something really interesting where he's arch and over the top, but also there's real genuine emotion. People can meme Nick Cage all they want, but he is such a thoughtful, deep, and emotional actor, even while doing the crazy stuff. And the sequence itself, there's so much cool stuff. Before he goes under, he's about to have surgery. He's starting to feel the effects of the medicine they gave him. Ogden asks what he's trying to say, and he just says, I like ravioli. Yeah, Faber's like, Well, you'll have all the ravioli you want after the surgery, basically. I just loved it. It's such a small human moment in the middle of everything before it gets nuts. And then, holy shit, while he is going under, his mask turns into a spider web. It's like the spider comes out as he's losing consciousness. It zooms into the fibers on his mask and they become little tiny spider eyes, each one reflecting a different scene from the show. It was just beautiful. And here's the detail I want to flag that people might miss that I realized on a second watch. So when Faber cuts him open, I watched it first in black and white, and I didn't notice any blood, which I thought was weird. Then when I went back in color, I was like, oh my God, there's no blood. There's just spiders coming out of him. I'm like, wait a minute, are the spiders his blood in this hallucination? That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:03

Spiders are his blood. The bones are his spirits.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:06

Yes. I know. It was so cool, so creepy. And I think absolutely the most horrifying moment of the episode is when Silvermane and his gang arrive. She says, Oh, well, yeah, I've experimented on other people. I'll show them to you. They're back here.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:27

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:28

Woo! Okay. She opens the door and it sort of ties back to last episode. I don't know why jars are such a big part of medicine in this, but in last episode, they had small bugs in jars. From that, there were tubes going into the people they're being experimented on. Here they have giant-sized tubes. And inside them, oh my God, they're just these dead monstrous mangled people that she's experimented on. They're floating in formaldehyde or something. That's where the two versions really hit me the hardest this episode.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:08

Because in black and white, they really do look like monsters. They look spooky, they look creepy. But in color, you can see the color of their skin and the light and the shadows. They look more human. Like you can see that there was a human there. And that made me feel emotional in a way that the black and white version didn't. Both are doing something really interesting, but they're doing different things, which really intrigued me. I also love that scene because obviously Flint, Lonnie, and Megawatt, they're very invested in what's happening here. They really want to figure it out. And they try to act tough, but seeing that scene really affected everyone. Even Silvermane was just horrified. He's a gangster. He kills people for a living. But this is beyond the pale, beyond what he could imagine. And I really loved the look of this episode too. So I took a peek on IMDB. And what I learned is actually episodes five and six have a different DP than the rest of the season.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:18

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:19

Um, so for this one, it's Peter Deming, who shot some very creepy stuff. He did a Mohole and Drive at the 2017 Twin Peaks revival.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:31

Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:32

And Drag Me to Hell, a personal favorite. So this guy has a whole specific relationship with psychological horror and surrealism. You can really feel it. And there's something about the look of these two episodes that's more unsettling that I I just really loved. I just felt so connected to this and just the Nicolas Cage of it all. I would love to see a dance performance based on his insane movement. Well, actually, I saw one earlier today. Oh, yeah. We need a nice interpretation.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:08

Yeah. I tried to do a cage movement.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:14

Such cool stuff here. I just really, really loved this episode. I'm dying to know what do you think about it?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:21

Man, I know my excitement's been a bit varied through the episodes we've watched so far, but damn, yeah, I'm pretty sure this episode might be my favorite of this whole season. I know we still got two episodes left, but I wouldn't be mad at all to be proven wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:37

Especially given how much I've enjoyed this episode. So first, I'll just start off with what bothered me. One thing I don't get, and sure, I guess I can accept that it's probably a film noir thing. But man, Ben really just decided to risk it all on some lady he knows for a fact through his own goddamn investigations, is not to be trusted. I meant I just think it's equal parts absurd and funny. And sure, I guess guys do sometimes make decisions like that in their worst interest. So I digress, I suppose.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:16

I think it's more out of his desperation and self-delusion than anything. But yeah, we know he's seen a lot of movies. He should have seen this coming from the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:25

Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, and he already knows through his own, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:30

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:32

Anyway, let's get to what really made it work for me. Uh, first thing, visuals. Oh my god. The use of split screen presented in the comic book panel style, like the Aangley Hulk movie from 2003. I really like how they did some of that stuff in this episode. Spiders everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:52

So many spiders, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:54

Freaky, but awesome. Yeah, that was cool. Whoa. Hallucination scene was awesome. Like with the perspective making everything huge and the projections of the people he's had dealings with lately on the objects. It was really cool. And then last but not least, I love the part where Ogden transforms to the younger shirt scene, and they do the spinny cam transition. So cool. Spinning the camera around, and you see him old, and then he's still old, and the next time they spin it around, then he's young.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:33

It was so cool. And you get to see Faber's reaction. I remember thinking, is it has it gone horribly wrong or very well? I couldn't tell from her face that it turns around. You're like, oh my god, it was so cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:47

Yeah. Nick Age's acting also has been amazing all season, but this is definitely another episode with some real standout moments. Specifically spidering out in the medical set from a splashback was dying from that. I don't get why he does the crane from Karate Kid at one point, though. And I also slightly did like the hand movements to YMCA at one point. If you really watch it, he's just like, How should I move my arms this time? He probably has to take cues from something. Oh, I love I have a feeling he's just thinking of different positions he can move his arms into that you could reference from. So I thought that was hilarious. Uh when Dr. Faber just finished making this speech to Ben and he's like, I like, and everyone pauses and looks at him like he's trying to say something insightful, but instead he's just like ravioli.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:45

That scene was so powerful that I almost considered having us eat raviolis two nights in a row. That's how you know it's powerful.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:54

And then, bro, is this interpretive spider dancing?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:58

Yeah, baby. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:01

I thought it was funny that Ben mentions to the now young Ogden or Freckles as he called it.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:09

That Silvermane and his men must be on their way because it's Monday, and Robbie would have published the story revealing the location of her secret labs.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:19

Yeah, I like the way he wants to pull it her, so he just put it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:25

Even better, with Silvermane and his guy show up, they actually present the paper mentioning the lab on the front page. They open it up and like lay it out. It's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:37

But yeah, I think above all else, I really appreciate that we're really building up to that finale.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:43

Especially given that I feel like the last few TV shows we've covered, the majority seemed to have finales that felt a bit rushed.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:50

Yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:52

Yeah, by that I mean we'd be at the penultimate episode for some of them, and we'd still feel like we had no idea how they'd conclude the season. This show, on the other hand, I feel for pretty confident that I have at least a general idea how the season's going in, given the way things have been building towards us at least expecting certain things to play out. Like either Ben being able to save the mutants or them dying because he can't cure them in time.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:19

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:20

Silver main or his men having a final confrontation with Ben as a spider. And Kat probably leaving town alone since I expect Flint to die and her to leave that. And not being able to face Ben after betraying him. I mean, Ashley, does that sound Phil Noir or Detective Noir to you?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:42

Either that or she's gonna betray him in an even worse way for someone else. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely not gonna end well for them.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:52

Yeah. Overall, uh, yeah, that was a really strong episode, both in terms of providing additional backstory and setting things up for the penultimate and finale episodes. Kind of light on Robbie.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:06

I know, I missed him.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:08

Yeah, and I'm still wanting more cool, superpowered fight scenes.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:12

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:14

But given that it was otherwise so good, I guess I can forgive the crew. I really appreciate that the showrunners have just let Nick Cage go all out on the show. And I really think that it's been a great example of how well he's able to do all around. If the character suits him well. Yeah. This character definitely does. So while we get all the Hallmark crazy Nick Cage moments, I feel like he's given so much freedom and space to work how he wants to that he eventually always returns fully refreshed to ace the serious parts of the character, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:49

My last comment is just Li Jun Lee, my Asian sister. I loved you in Sinners, and I've loved you for most of the show, but man, your character is too trifling for me to ride with her through the show. So keep doing your thing as cat and making dudes do dumb shit for you. But sorry, I gotta sit this one out because you're causing too much chaos among the dudes, and I just can't back you on this one.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:13

So yeah, I mean, I can back her in terms of her wardrobe and her makeup. Okay, she's got me on her side there, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:23

Yeah, she's not a crime boss, she's not like a super powered person. She's causing a lot of problems. You know, games, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:35

I can't wait to see what happens next. But also, I'm gonna miss these characters a lot. Yeah, it this show is such a an actor's show. It does seem like that. Everyone gets a real moment to shine, even down to like Lonnie and Megawatt and Flint, like all of them I think are doing really cool work. I just hope that everyone gets more work out of this and we get to see them a lot because I I just think really great acting. And I hope we see Frankie, because I know you love Frankie.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:04

Oh yeah, Frankie.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:08

Well, stay tuned, guys. We'll discuss the penultimate and finale next week.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:14

For sure.

What We're Watching Next

unknown 1:36:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:19

What are you watching next week?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:21

Ooh, we are watching the new Spielberg movie Disclosure Day.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:26

Oh, right. Yeah, we'll finally find out what Coleman Domingo was going on about when he was all like, this 79-year terror campaign of lies has to end.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:37

Oh my god, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:41

Worth the price of admission. And uh on top of that, holy shit, we have the seriously epic looking action movie The Furious, starring a bunch of amazing martial arts actors. I'm so excited! And then, oh my god, we might even see Stop That Train by Ripall and the gang. Who knows? 2BD, 2BD, TBD, 2BD.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:07

And for TV, we'll be finishing our recaps of Spider Noir with episodes seven and eight.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:14

Oh, yeah, dang. It goes by so fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:18

Yeah.

Outro

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